The Writings of Ellen G. White
Why the writings of EGW when we have the Bible? | |
Are some of the Counsels of EGW merely her own human opinon? | |
What level of accuracy does the Bible require of a true prophet? | |
What are the Biblical test or marks of a true prophet? (see chart below) |
The Bibilcal Marks of a True Prophet & Ellen G. White |
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Mark |
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| GIVEN DREAMS AND VISIONS BY GOD | NUMBERS 12:6 | |
| LEAD YOU TO THE TRUE GOD | DEUT. 13:1-3 | |
| ALL PROPHECIES COME TO PASS UNLESS CONDITIONAL | DEUT. 18:22 & JONAH 4:2 | |
| DOES NOT LIE /DOES NOT CONTRADICT WHAT THE LORD SAYS | JER. 23:28, JER. 28:9 & 1 KINGS 13 | |
| PROPHESIES IN THE NAME OF THE LORD NOT HIS OWN | 11 PETER 1:21 | |
| POINTS OUT SINS | ISA. 58:1 | |
| WARNS OF JUDGEMENT | ISA. 24:20 | |
YES |
SPEAKS IN HARMONY WITH BIBLE | ISA. 8:20 |
| ACTIONS WILL BE CHRIST LIKE | MATT. 7:16-20 | |
| ARE SHOWN BY GOD, THINGS DONE IN SECRET | EZE. 8 | |
| CONFESSES THAT JESUS IS COME IN THE FLESH | 1 JOHN 4:1-3 | |
| HAVE EYES OPEN WHILE IN VISION | NUMBERS 24:4 | |
| THEY ARE TAKEN PLACES BY THE SPIRIT OF GOD | EZE. 11:24, 43:5; DAN. 8:2; 2 COR. 12:1-4 | |
| THEY DO NOT HAVE VISIONS BY THEIR OWN WILL BUT ARE MOVED BY GOD | 2 PETER 1:21 | |
| WHEN VISION BEGINS THEY HAVE NO STRENGTH | DAN. 10:8 & 17 | |
| STRENGTHENED BY GOD WHILE IN VISION | DAN. 10:10 & 18 | |
| THEY DON'T BREATH WHILE IN VISION | DAN. 10:17 | |
| HATED BECAUSE THEIR MESSAGE CONDEMNS SIN AND WARNS OF JUDGEMENT AND UPHOLDS RIGHTEOUSNESS | 1 KINGS 19:10; 2 CHRON. 36:15,16; ACTS 7:52 | |
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Why did God insprire Ellen White with with messages for the church, when we already had the Bible?
Purpose of the Testimonies. --The Word of God is sufficient to enlighten the most beclouded mind, and may be understood by those who have any desire to understand it. But notwithstanding all this, some who profess to make the Word of God their study, are found living in direct opposition to its plainest teachings. Then, to leave men and women without excuse, God gives plain and pointed testimonies, bringing them back to the Word that they have neglected to follow. The Word of God abounds in general principles for the formation of correct habits of living, and the Testimonies, general and personal, have been calculated to call their attention more especially to these principles. ---Evangelism, pages 256, 257 (Testimonies, vol. 5, pp. 663, 664.) 1889
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Her Own Opinions?
If the preconceived opinions or particular ideas of some are crossed in being
reproved by testimonies, they have a burden at once to make plain their position to
discriminate between the testimonies, defining what is Sister White's human judgment, and
what is the word of the Lord. Everything that sustains their cherished ideas is divine,
and the testimonies to correct their errors are human--Sister White's opinions. They make
of none effect the counsel of God by their tradition. ---The Ellen G.
White 1888 Materials, page 257
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And he said, Hear now my words: If
there be a prophet among you, I the Lord will make myself known unto him in a vision, and
will speak unto him in a dream. ---Numbers 12:6
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If there arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and giveth thee a sign or a wonder, And the sign or the wonder come to pass, whereof he spake unto thee, saying, Let us go after other gods, which thou hast not known, and let us serve them; Thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams: for the Lord your God proveth you, to know whether ye love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul. ---Deut. 13:1-3
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When a prophet speaketh in the name of
the Lord, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the Lord hath
not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of
him. ---Deut. 18:22
And he prayed unto the Lord, and said, I pray thee, O Lord, was not this my
saying, when I was yet in my country? Therefore I fled before unto Tarshish: for I knew
that thou art a gracious God, and merciful, slow to anger, and of great kindness, and
repentest thee of the evil. ---Jonah 4:2 [Read context
story of God's mercy, choosing to resend His Judgment of doom upon the repentant
Ninevites].
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The prophet that hath a dream, let him tell a dream; and he that hath my word, let him speak my word faithfully. What is the chaff to the wheat? saith the Lord. ---Jeremiah 23:28
The prophet which prophesieth of peace, when the word of the prophet shall come
to pass, then shall the prophet be known, that the Lord hath truly sent him.
---Jeremiah 28:9
And, behold, there came a man of God out of Judah by the word of the Lord unto
Bethel: and Jeroboam stood by the altar to burn incense. And he cried against the altar in
the word of the Lord, and said, O altar, altar, thus saith the Lord; Behold, a child shall
be born unto the house of David, Josiah by name; and upon thee shall he offer the priests
of the high places that burn incense upon thee, and men's bones shall be burnt upon thee.
And he gave a sign the same day, saying, This is the sign which the Lord hath spoken;
Behold, the altar shall be rent, and the ashes that are upon it shall be poured out. And
it came to pass, when king Jeroboam heard the saying of the man of God, which had cried
against the altar in Bethel, that he put forth his hand from the altar, saying, Lay hold
on him. And his hand, which he put forth against him, dried up, so that he could not pull
it in again to him. The altar also was rent, and the ashes poured out from the altar,
according to the sign which the man of God had given by the word of the Lord. And the king
answered and said unto the man of God, Intreat now the face of the Lord thy God, and pray
for me, that my hand may be restored me again. And the man of God besought the Lord, and
the king's hand was restored him again, and became as it was before. And the king said
unto the man of God, Come home with me, and refresh thyself, and I will give thee a
reward. And the man of God said unto the king, If thou wilt give me half thine house, I
will not go in with thee, neither will I eat bread nor drink water in this place: For so
was it charged me by the word of the Lord, saying, Eat no bread, nor drink water, nor turn
again by the same way that thou camest. So he went another way, and returned not by the
way that he came to Bethel.
Now there dwelt an old prophet in Bethel; and his sons came and told him all the works
that the man of God had done that day in Bethel: the words which he had spoken unto the
king, them they told also to their father. And their father said unto them, What way went
he? For his sons had seen what way the man of God went, which came from Judah. And he said
unto his sons, Saddle me the ass. So they saddled him the ass: and he rode thereon, And
went after the man of God, and found him sitting under an oak: and he said unto him, Art
thou the man of God that camest from Judah? And he said, I am. Then he said unto him, Come
home with me, and eat bread. And he said, I may not return with thee, nor go in with thee:
neither will I eat bread nor drink water with thee in this place: For it was said to me by
the word of the Lord, Thou shalt eat no bread nor drink water there, nor turn again to go
by the way that thou camest. He said unto him, I am a prophet also as thou art; and an
angel spake unto me by the word of the Lord, saying, Bring him back with thee into thine
house, that he may eat bread and drink water. But he lied unto him. So he went back with
him, and did eat bread in his house, and drank water.
And it came to pass, as they sat at the table, that the word of the Lord came unto the
prophet that brought him back: And he cried unto the man of God that came from Judah,
saying, Thus saith the Lord, Forasmuch as thou hast disobeyed the mouth of the Lord, and
hast not kept the commandment which the Lord thy God commanded thee, But camest back, and
hast eaten bread and drunk water in the place, of the which the Lord did say to thee, Eat
no bread, and drink no water; thy carcase shall not come unto the sepulchre of thy
fathers.
And it came to pass, after he had eaten bread, and after he had drunk, that he saddled for
him the ass, to wit, for the prophet whom he had brought back. And when he was gone, a
lion met him by the way, and slew him: and his carcase was cast in the way, and the ass
stood by it, the lion also stood by the carcase. And, behold, men passed by, and saw the
carcase cast in the way, and the lion standing by the carcase: and they came and told it
in the city where the old prophet dwelt. And when the prophet that brought him back from
the way heard thereof, he said, It is the man of God, who was disobedient unto the word of
the Lord: therefore the Lord hath delivered him unto the lion, which hath torn him, and
slain him, according to the word of the Lord, which he spake unto him. And he spake to his
sons, saying, Saddle me the ass. And they saddled him. And he went and found his carcase
cast in the way, and the ass and the lion standing by the carcase: the lion had not eaten
the carcase, nor torn the ass. And the prophet took up the carcase of the man of God, and
laid it upon the ass, and brought it back: and the old prophet came to the city, to mourn
and to bury him. And he laid his carcase in his own grave; and they mourned over him,
saying, Alas, my brother! And it came to pass, after he had buried him, that he spake to
his sons, saying, When I am dead, then bury me in the sepulchre wherein the man of God is
buried; lay my bones beside his bones: For the saying which he cried by the word of the
Lord against the altar in Bethel, and against all the houses of the high places which are
in the cities of Samaria, shall surely come to pass.
After this thing Jeroboam returned not from his evil way, but made again of the lowest of
the people priests of the high places: whosoever would, he consecrated him, and he became
one of the priests of the high places. And this thing became sin unto the house of
Jeroboam, even to cut it off, and to destroy it from off the face of the earth. ---1
Kings 13:1-34
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For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost. ---2 Peter 1:21
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Cry aloud, spare not, lift up thy voice like a trumpet, and shew my people their transgression, and the house of Jacob their sins. ---Isaiah 58:1
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The earth shall reel to and fro like a drunkard, and shall be removed like a cottage; and the transgression thereof shall be heavy upon it; and it shall fall, and not rise again. ---Isaiah 24:20
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To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them. ---Isaiah 8:20
Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. ---Matthew 7:16-20
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And it came to pass in the sixth year, in the sixth month,
in the fifth day of the month, as I sat in mine house, and the elders of Judah sat before
me, that the hand of the Lord God fell there upon me. Then I beheld, and lo a likeness as
the appearance of fire: from the appearance of his loins even downward, fire; and from his
loins even upward, as the appearance of brightness, as the colour of amber. And he put
forth the form of an hand, and took me by a lock of mine head; and the spirit lifted me up
between the earth and the heaven, and brought me in the visions of God to Jerusalem, to
the door of the inner gate that looketh toward the north; where was the seat of the image
of jealousy, which provoketh to jealousy. And, behold, the glory of the God of Israel was
there, according to the vision that I saw in the plain.
Then said he unto me, Son of man, lift up thine eyes now the way toward the north. So I
lifted up mine eyes the way toward the north, and behold northward at the gate of the
altar this image of jealousy in the entry. He said furthermore unto me, Son of man, seest
thou what they do? even the great abominations that the house of Israel committeth here,
that I should go far off from my sanctuary? but turn thee yet again, and thou shalt see
greater abominations.
And he brought me to the door of the court; and when I looked, behold a hole in the wall.
Then said he unto me, Son of man, dig now in the wall: and when I had digged in the wall,
behold a door. And he said unto me, Go in, and behold the wicked abominations that they do
here. So I went in and saw; and behold every form of creeping things, and abominable
beasts, and all the idols of the house of Israel, pourtrayed upon the wall round about.
And there stood before them seventy men of the ancients of the house of Israel, and in the
midst of them stood Jaazaniah the son of Shaphan, with every man his censer in his hand;
and a thick cloud of incense went up. Then said he unto me, Son of man, hast thou seen
what the ancients of the house of Israel do in the dark, every man in the chambers of his
imagery? for they say, The Lord seeth us not; the Lord hath forsaken the earth.
He said also unto me, Turn thee yet again, and thou shalt see greater abominations that
they do. Then he brought me to the door of the gate of the Lord's house which was toward
the north; and, behold, there sat women weeping for Tammuz.
Then said he unto me, Hast thou seen this, O son of man? turn thee yet again, and thou
shalt see greater abominations than these. And he brought me into the inner court of the
Lord's house, and, behold, at the door of the temple of the Lord, between the porch and
the altar, were about five and twenty men, with their backs toward the temple of the Lord,
and their faces toward the east; and they worshipped the sun toward the east.
Then he said unto me, Hast thou seen this, O son of man? Is it a light thing to the house
of Judah that they commit the abominations which they commit here? for they have filled
the land with violence, and have returned to provoke me to anger: and, lo, they put the
branch to their nose. Therefore will I also deal in fury: mine eye shall not spare,
neither will I have pity: and though they cry in mine ears with a loud voice, yet will I
not hear them. ---Ezekiel 8:1-18
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Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world. ---1 John 4:1-3
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He hath said, which heard the words of God, which saw the vision of the Almighty, falling into a trance, but having his eyes open: ---Numbers 24:4
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Afterwards the spirit took me up, and brought me in a vision by the Spirit of God into Chaldea, to them of the captivity. So the vision that I had seen went up from me. ---Ezekiel 11:24
So the spirit took me up, and brought me into the inner court; and, behold, the glory of the Lord filled the house. ---Ezekiel 43:5
And I saw in a vision; and it came to pass, when I saw, that I was at Shushan in the palace, which is in the province of Elam; and I saw in a vision, and I was by the river of Ulai. ---Daniel 8:2
It is not expedient for me doubtless to glory. I will come to visions and revelations of the Lord. I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) such an one caught up to the third heaven. And I knew such a man, (whether in the body, or out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) How that he was caught up into paradise, and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter. ---2 Cor. 12:1-4
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For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost. ---2 Peter 1:21
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Therefore I was left alone, and saw this great vision, and there remained no strength in me: for my comeliness was turned in me into corruption, and I retained no strength. ---Daniel 10:8
For how can the servant of this my lord talk with this my lord? for as for me, straightway there remained no strength in me, neither is there breath left in me. ---Daniel 10:17
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And, behold, an hand touched me, which set me upon my knees and upon the palms of my hands. ---Daniel 10:10
Then there came again and touched me one like the appearance of a man, and he strengthened me, ---Daniel 10:18
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For how can the servant of this my lord talk with this my lord? for as for me, straightway there remained no strength in me, neither is there breath left in me. ---Daniel 10:17
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And he said, I have been very jealous for the
Lord God of hosts: for the children of Israel have forsaken thy covenant, thrown down
thine altars, and slain thy prophets with the sword; and I, even I only, am left; and they
seek my life, to take it away. ---1 Kings 19:10
And the Lord God of their fathers sent to them by his messengers, rising up
betimes, and sending; because he had compassion on his people, and on his dwelling place:
But they mocked the messengers of God, and despised his words, and misused his prophets,
until the wrath of the Lord arose against his people, till there was no remedy.
---2 Chron. 36:15-16
Which of the prophets have not your fathers persecuted? and they have slain them
which shewed before of the coming of the Just One; of whom ye have been now the betrayers
and murderers: ---Acts 7:52